question his sincerity that he actually cared, that year after year he was pushing it. it was a sustained effort. his message was that free market capitalism, the lack of it, that is a problem with america's cities, america's inner cities and if we can bring those sorts of market policies, let markets work, let competition, let people own their own business, let people build assets. that is the path to prosperity and that's what we need to hear a lot more of from washington. >> grover norquists are one of the things i'll never forget, jack was working with an hispanic group on empowerment zones but he wanted the empowerment zone to be tax free, capital gains tax free. he sent me to a bunch of meetings with people i had never met before but we had this common ground to provide opportunity, tax-free opportunity for hispanics who need it, grover. there isn't anybody in the gop that has that message.